tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post7436988361895476861..comments2023-10-09T11:27:46.098+01:00Comments on Shepherd's Bush: Westfield heavies bundle librarians into streetChris Underwoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03026438313352911527noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-2064161954765445962012-06-26T10:44:34.853+01:002012-06-26T10:44:34.853+01:00The problem is that we do not realize how the publ...The problem is that we do not realize how the public realm is being depleted through Privately Owned Public Spaces (POPS) and Business Improvement District (BIDs) with their own agendas. <br /><br />Check out this map: https://pops.crowdmap.com/<br /><br />a crowd-sourced project were people identify the POPS and BIDs they know about. Only when we'll see how we are completely surrounded by them, we will understand how little 'public' the public space is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-82708388333426146062010-11-16T22:25:55.749+00:002010-11-16T22:25:55.749+00:00coming soon..this is the clip without the sound......coming soon..this is the clip without the sound....but wait and you wioll be heard soon!!!<br />.....jp & woodstock crew<br /><br /><br />http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=160400937331332&ref=mfjp & the woodstock crewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01118207027513702222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-66344988674520307342010-11-10T20:33:44.404+00:002010-11-10T20:33:44.404+00:00Hi...I'm a member of the Voices for the Librar...Hi...I'm a member of the Voices for the Library campaign (http://www.voicesforthelibrary.org.uk/wordpress/)....we were all really shocked by what happened whilst people were campaigning for their local library. We publish stories on our site from library users as well as library staff and would really like to hear from someone who witnessed this first hand and is willing to share their experience. Contact details are on our website.Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00466463047339981386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-17023473670405922112010-11-09T21:45:05.138+00:002010-11-09T21:45:05.138+00:00Didn't these guys get the memo?Didn't these guys get the memo?suburbanslicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15674120736681527922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-72235301952568438722010-11-08T22:53:52.347+00:002010-11-08T22:53:52.347+00:00Chris, well done on making this piece to BBC news....Chris, well done on making this piece to BBC news. I did post soon after your post but it got lost in the ether. Libraries in LBHF are under yet another restructuring, cost cutting, removing qualified Librarians and heading for the Waterstones model. When they close the Carnegie Library in Hammersmith they will relocate to a corner of WHSmiths.....<br />IainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-71007598698188011522010-11-08T22:36:56.814+00:002010-11-08T22:36:56.814+00:00As I understand it the Southern Terrace is a publi...As I understand it the Southern Terrace is a public right of way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-22285389497983690872010-11-08T18:38:31.968+00:002010-11-08T18:38:31.968+00:00if it's on the street, then that's a publi...if it's on the street, then that's a public highway. if the cops says different, then correct him. you might be best off informing him that he's failing to adequately provide for your right to peaceful assembly under the human rights act.<br /><br />i had a similar experience with london coalition against poverty outside the housing office in lewisham not long ago. we got attacked by 2 security guards, one of whom deliberately smashed a digital camera and threw the contents of a trestle table into the path of an oncoming bus, causing it to swerve. a passer by - NOTHING to do with us - stopped and was so shocked that he called the cops. while they were on their way, said security guards went round the corner, extracted a pocket knife and cut a miniscule hole in his shirt, in order to tell the rozz that "4 or 5" of us "had jumped on his back". unfortunately, the emotionally charged nature of the situation led to me losing my calm a little bit as i remonstrated with a cop who'd already extracted his cuffs to nick me for this imagined assault charge. i swore and he considered that sufficient cause with which to nick me and fine me for a public order offence.<br /><br />unperturbed, we went back a couple of weeks later. this time, the cops arrived instantly (!!) and thus the security stayed well away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-30487417095765342622010-11-08T16:22:52.901+00:002010-11-08T16:22:52.901+00:00Westfield security are tossers.Westfield security are tossers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-88839559896162773312010-11-08T15:29:01.772+00:002010-11-08T15:29:01.772+00:00They were only doing their job. We should be askin...They were only doing their job. We should be asking whether faceless companies should be able to dictate who does what in our public spaces. <br /><br />Mark, you're right about Canary Wharf. I suspect it also has the largest private security force in the country, and yet none of the 'officers' can gain entry to where the majority of the crimes are being committed - behind glass doors.Bravenewmaldenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15116119374493806998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-14643137911143635062010-11-08T14:58:43.173+00:002010-11-08T14:58:43.173+00:00agree with the sentiment but lets keep it clean sh...agree with the sentiment but lets keep it clean shall we? no need to sink to their level.Chris Underwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03026438313352911527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-24595950290729870722010-11-08T14:40:48.334+00:002010-11-08T14:40:48.334+00:00Fuck Westfield security.
"You need to put th...Fuck Westfield security.<br /><br />"You need to put that away" What a little jobswoth. I see this all too often - plastic little security men with pumped up little hitler attitudes attempting to assert their authority by picking on innocent protesters.<br /><br />If he laid a finger on me he would've ended up in a hospital for his troubles. Peace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-3256898812333754022010-11-08T14:39:04.548+00:002010-11-08T14:39:04.548+00:00Does this mean that there is no public right of wa...Does this mean that there is no public right of way to the library? Can Westfield arbitrarily decide who can and can not access the library? <br /><br />There's actually a similar issue at Canary Wharf with the tube station there - incredibly there's no public right of way.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-6542622512814532012010-11-07T20:01:49.555+00:002010-11-07T20:01:49.555+00:00Most pathways outside Libraries are a public right...Most pathways outside Libraries are a public right of way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-56938350245400739752010-11-07T18:32:13.964+00:002010-11-07T18:32:13.964+00:00Yeah, but guys - librarians? Come on. They should ...Yeah, but guys - librarians? Come on. They should have just said 'hand out your leaflets quietly for half an hour, then on yr bikes, girls.' The copper was laughing.hangbitchhttp://www.hangbitching.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-8377147396457543672010-11-07T12:58:36.016+00:002010-11-07T12:58:36.016+00:00Anonymous @6 November 2010 20:29 and Jason Sands a...Anonymous @6 November 2010 20:29 and Jason Sands are both right.<br /><br />The landowner, or their agents, which can be security or sometimes the police can use reasonable force to eject trespassers, but that doesn't mean you have to eject yourself. Trespassing is not generally a crime, so in theory you can just let the security carry you off the land and then come straight back. <br /><br />There criminal offences of trespass in some special types of places, such as railways, embassies and a few others, and there's also a criminal offence of "aggravate trespass", which is essentially disrupting lawful activity while trespassing.Barneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-39017462689063715752010-11-07T11:48:18.697+00:002010-11-07T11:48:18.697+00:00Anonymous@6 November 2010 20:29
Not true, the lan...Anonymous@6 November 2010 20:29<br /><br />Not true, the landowner (or their agents, e.g. security) can use reasonable force to eject trespassers, they don't need a court order.Jason Sandshttp://freedomofassembly.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-53175689635223628822010-11-06T20:50:53.187+00:002010-11-06T20:50:53.187+00:00Here's some of the shots I got Chris:
http://...Here's some of the shots I got Chris:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zygtm8HIyHc<br /><br />That first guy is the one who chased me out. I was worried he was going to grab the camera so hightailed it round the corner and did the second lot of shooting across the street so that people could see how many of those guys were there. The whole thing was just so dumb. All of that and that incredibly aggressive attitude for three librarians handing out leaflets - talking into mikes on collars like the CIA? Wtf?hangbitchhttp://www.hangbitching.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-33826159782555358722010-11-06T20:29:57.037+00:002010-11-06T20:29:57.037+00:00however the fun thing about private land is that i...however the fun thing about private land is that it takes a court order before you legally have to leave.<br />That little nugget has spared protests in manchester for years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-23440134677886384782010-11-06T19:34:26.509+00:002010-11-06T19:34:26.509+00:00This is issue has been slowly building for years. ...This is issue has been slowly building for years. Public spaces are handed over to developers for regeneration on the cheap. They can then operate the spaces as they choose. The rule of thumb is; If your spending money you are welcome, anything else, get lost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com