tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post6734098279838446138..comments2023-10-09T11:27:46.098+01:00Comments on Shepherd's Bush: Shooting on Lakeside Road: man deadChris Underwoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03026438313352911527noreply@blogger.comBlogger98125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-37041016712675530332011-05-16T13:34:28.386+01:002011-05-16T13:34:28.386+01:00Looks like most of the latest comments are being m...Looks like most of the latest comments are being made by the same person. So whilst depressing to read - this isn't some sort of huge Black vs White resentment going on.<br /><br />If anything, as soon as you pick up a weapon and use it agains others, ou deserve the full force of the law on you, whatever colour you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-28477923194975707072011-05-15T23:33:23.870+01:002011-05-15T23:33:23.870+01:00Could someone please explain to me how being stati...Could someone please explain to me how being statistically unfairly subjected to Police searches because of your ethnicity become an excuse for murder?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-32596319004883090802011-05-14T19:21:32.748+01:002011-05-14T19:21:32.748+01:00I'm from Glasgow. The ned culture (chaves) is ...I'm from Glasgow. The ned culture (chaves) is horrendous. They are threatening and abusive. They too stab, shoot and kill one another.<br /><br />They are all white<br /><br />I've lived in London for 5 years. If you think the problems in W12 are race related, think again.<br /><br />It's the result of poor schooling, poor parenting and decades of governmental neglect for our society. Instead of starting wars abroad, we should be fighting the problems we have across the country. <br /><br />My thoughts go to those that have lost in this terrible incidentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-35651537017634281312011-05-13T19:46:42.821+01:002011-05-13T19:46:42.821+01:00Just a very quick question..
I used to be residen...Just a very quick question..<br /><br />I used to be resident on Lakeside for about 13 years, and I probably know most of the anonymous posters as they would know me..<br /><br />I remember VIVIDLY how nice Lakeside was, you remember them times just when they had all the scaffold up, cleaned and painted the brickwork, installed the intercoms etc..<br /><br />Now, remember Lakeside's matriarch? How much of this degradation and business going on nowadays would still be happening if Tina Deygoo was still sitting on her doorstep in the afternoons having a fag and a coffee and making sure people didnt ramp?<br /><br />What the area needs is a strong person to fill them big boots and bring back the COMMUNITY to Lakeside..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-64511382253705802932011-05-12T18:32:33.194+01:002011-05-12T18:32:33.194+01:00another dead in camberwell what a tradegy, my cond...another dead in camberwell what a tradegy, my condolences to both victims but seriously the police always come late, probably busy with paperwork, filling out another needless stop and search form, wonder if they look into their own statistics and figures/data then they could see that we must all work together instead of targettingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-23557422176239306492011-05-12T18:27:30.572+01:002011-05-12T18:27:30.572+01:00just looked at the figures posted about stop and s...just looked at the figures posted about stop and searches by margaret, definite targetting there mateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-61003129570911588742011-05-12T18:25:15.359+01:002011-05-12T18:25:15.359+01:00the fact is yes police do a good job sometimes but...the fact is yes police do a good job sometimes but on issues like this most times they run into a brick wall due to people in the black community being distrustful or fearful of them maybe due to past encounters. personally i wouldn't report a crime because i feel like even if i did and tried to be friends with all the police in my area, i'll still be stopped and searched dispproportionally than other races, we must address this look at the figures posted it's all fact but heads are being buried in the sand as usualraynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-52955245298131280812011-05-12T16:04:32.723+01:002011-05-12T16:04:32.723+01:00Both of the last posts were meant to be one post b...Both of the last posts were meant to be one post but it got too big so I had to do it in two posts!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-58375993068998023352011-05-12T16:01:55.349+01:002011-05-12T16:01:55.349+01:00There are a few kids that hang around, they can be...There are a few kids that hang around, they can be annoying but I wouldn't call them intimidating and in a way I quite like having them there. <br /><br />I've never seen much evidence of drug dealing on the street, sometimes you smell a bit of weed but that's not the end of the world. But who do you think buys these drugs? If all the black people are unemployed and have to fund themselves through selling drugs presuambly it's the middle class whites in the area that want to get away from the intensity of their high pressure jobs they so proudly talk about! <br /><br />I do take drugs but I wouldn't buy them from a black teenager as I would expect them to be of a far poorer quality and much more expensive than my other contacts who are not street kids scrabbling to earn £50 a day! <br /><br />In the case of this shooting it seems there are two possibilities, one is that the man in the car was immersed in the drug world and was shot as part of a disagreement over money/drugs. If you inhabit that world, in this day and age, you can expect to land yourself in that sort of bother. Kids will shoot each other of a £500 debt which is roughly 3 oz of weed! <br /><br />Or, it was a case of mistaken identity (I don't buy that persoanlly) in which case it's a massive tragedy, or it was a personal dispute possibly or usually over a woman! <br /><br />And anyone naive enough to question how they procured a handgun needs to go into their kitchen cupboard, find the nescafe, wake up and smell it! You can buy a replica pistol off the internet and convert it to fire crude ammunition capable of killing someone with a tool kit! Kids do it in their DT class at school! These guns are passed around and rented out all over London it is as easy to get a gun as it is to get a knife! <br /><br />White people: Stop being scared of blacks kids, you alienate yoursleves and make yourselves victims by living in fear, you also alienate black people and make them conform to the idea that they're criminals. Try talking to them and being polite and if you don't get anywhere just smile and walk away, then try again another time, you might be surprised. <br /><br />Black people: Get out of this ridiculous "Us against them" world that you've become accustomed to, I have black friends that grew up on White City, West Ken estates that left all that behind and got a bit wiser and moved on with their lives. Not everyone is a racist, not all white people look down on you, not all of us are scared of you not all of us hate you! Try reaching out a bit and you might like what you get in return! <br /><br />To summarise, people need to take more ecstasy. <br /><br />Peace out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-40644681974719532372011-05-12T16:00:57.582+01:002011-05-12T16:00:57.582+01:00I live on Lakeside Road and have done for many yea...I live on Lakeside Road and have done for many years, I am a white middle class working male in my late 20's and my two pennies are this: <br /><br />People think by suggesting that bored youths should go out to comedy nights and gigs etc. to prevent themselves from being bored and hanging around the streets is clearly not very "down with street politics"! <br /><br />If you're a black youth or a group of black youths travelling out of your area to a different postcode is like inviting other local youths of that area to mug you or humiliate you. They get grief by other local kids of that area who don't recognise them and want to know why they're there, if they can't give a satisfactory answer (going to a comedy gig is unlikely to placate them!) then they maybe stabbed or beaten or robbed. <br /><br />Lakeside Road is a street full of council tenants, absolutely nothing wrong with that and the majority are nice people that keep themselves to themselves inspite of not having much money or support or hope. I have had slightly uneasy feelings about the two buildings at the start of the street near Blythe Road with cameras outside as I think they're some kind of halfway homes for prisoners or people that need temporary sheltered accom and I've witnessed some intimidating and threatening things happen there including a man beating a woman in the street. However, I NEVER see any police walking around or doing anything to ease the fear of any residents that might feel the same as I do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-72102345414199624982011-05-12T13:32:10.996+01:002011-05-12T13:32:10.996+01:00And another killing... this time in Camberwell... ...And another killing... this time in Camberwell... <br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13370825Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-71922657098980897552011-05-12T13:31:53.338+01:002011-05-12T13:31:53.338+01:00@Mark:
1) Under 16s get free bus travel. Over 16s...@Mark:<br /><br />1) Under 16s get free bus travel. Over 16s are old enough to get a part-time job to cover these things. There are loads of places in/around the Bush... especially with huge shopping centres like Westfield and places like Notting Hill and Hammersmith so close.<br /><br />2) Boris bikes are really unnecessary. If you ask nicely on your nearest FreeCycle group (http://www.freecycle.org/group/UK/London) someone will almost certainly GIVE you a bike for free. All you need to buy is a bike lock!<br /><br />3) There are plenty of free things to do. If it's comedy you're after, there's free comedy at the Comedy Café on Tuesday and Wednesday nights (http://www.comedycafe.co.uk/). Wednesday is Open Mic too, so if you've been a few times and think you can do better then you can have a go yourself! Loads of pubs do free music/comedy (plenty of local ones included) and with a bit of work Under 26s can get free theatre tickets too (http://www.anightlessordinary.org.uk/). This is all before you consider that this City has more free museums than anywhere else in the UK (http://daysoutguide.co.uk/free-london-museums.aspx). <br /><br />With so many other landmarks and attractions not charging for entry, there IS a lot to do out there... <br /><br />http://www.londonforfree.net/<br />http://www.freelondonevents.co.uk/<br />http://www.londonfreelist.com/<br />http://www.visitlondon.com/tag/free-attractions<br />http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/whats-on.php?show=FREE<br /><br />AND don't forget that in the Bush we have BBC TELEVISION CENTRE (for now). You can apply for free tickets to shows here: <br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/tickets/ <br /><br />(Word of warning for BBC shows - they give out more tickets than there is space to ensure a full audience, so you need to turn up an hour or so before the doors open).<br /><br />So yes. I very much agree with you Mark. There is clearly NOTHING for these people to do...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-42867758378853957652011-05-12T09:26:24.985+01:002011-05-12T09:26:24.985+01:00There's quite a few comments about along the l...There's quite a few comments about along the lines of "there's so much to do in London, you have no excuse."<br /><br />Please don't forget that if you have low/no income, £1.90 single on the tube / £1.30 single on the bus is actually a lot of money. (16-18/New Deal Oyster helps, but £0.95 / £0.65 is still a lot of cash when it adds up). I've known several people who simply haven't done something because the travel is too expensive for their tight budgets.<br /><br />Gigs / comedy, etc - again, a lot of these are a couple of quid, which is a lot of money for some. That's assuming you can even get in without showing a passport / driving license (another £100 that people simply don't have).<br /><br />And please don't suggest using Boris Bikes to get around - you need to have a credit card or a debit card with £200 spare sitting on it. Again, many people on low incomes simply won't be able to get a credit card, and won't have that kind of money sloshing around in a current account.<br /><br />Please consider that it's not a clear cut case of people being too lazy to do something. The cost of travel in this city is actually a big barrier to people finding employment and taking advantage of all that this city has to offer.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-62943542859163320992011-05-12T02:53:07.612+01:002011-05-12T02:53:07.612+01:00I am having over drive on my imagination about the...I am having over drive on my imagination about the young woman in the car, while her boyfriend is being shot I can invasion it in my imagination happening just like I do with my son being shot in Fulham court.<br /><br />Learning to live within myself is so hard without my son and hearing of someone else’s murder being shot re starts my brain ticking over, over over. <br /><br /><br />I will never accept this as part of life. I will not rest have peace of mind to that person who done this to my son is found .<br /><br />No one going to answer why one black brother is killing another black brother, when they are not really brothers<br />Due to the consequences of my sons friends who called each other “ BROTHER “ they got him murdered because of their actions in allegedly murdering someone else .<br /><br />One of them who had the dame check to say to my daughter when people where calling him a “ murder “ <br />I was more a brother to your brother then you were a sister to your brother.<br />There no brotherhood within the drug culture. <br />On June 4th nearly 2 years since my son death he has only been to our home one time that is only because my daughter in law called him to see her son my grandchild that my son never knew that his wife was expecting.<br /> <br /><br />People that cool bloodily shot someone have no morals, no values, they do not value life. They live for the moment they are just plan Psychopaths having no empathy for anyone , because if they had empathy they would understand cognitively the in pack it has on the family when someone is so cruelly taken from life in being murdered only a psychopath would not feel that empathy for human life, only for themselves and the money they gain from controlling the drugs or being payee by a drug dealer to murder someone else. <br /><br />I said my Piece now and peace I wish to you all.Margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13213575188604830952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-59418190602011102562011-05-12T02:45:56.830+01:002011-05-12T02:45:56.830+01:00Q: How does a 20 year old obtain a GUN!!Q: How does a 20 year old obtain a GUN!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-31586316964818692672011-05-11T23:23:42.417+01:002011-05-11T23:23:42.417+01:00Need places for bikes, skaeboards, roller blades, ...Need places for bikes, skaeboards, roller blades, graffiti art walls, more for the older youth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-48609160134486125072011-05-11T23:10:59.457+01:002011-05-11T23:10:59.457+01:00Masbro Centre... name me some more? We'er not ...Masbro Centre... name me some more? We'er not only talking about bush..this is happening everywhere!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-58079921182172106972011-05-11T23:10:36.399+01:002011-05-11T23:10:36.399+01:00I grew up in Clem attlee estate and speak to peopl...I grew up in Clem attlee estate and speak to people who live there now and they say its got worse with crime..why?<br /><br />When i was a kid, me and my friends would be on the streets playing, going to parks, playing sports in free tennis courts or even hanging out in the adventure playground that was on lille road-north end road.<br />Now i have a 13 yr old son, there is nothing free, if there is its far, everything is locked and non affordable.<br />Only one youth club has been mentioned, wheres all the sports and activities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-55433079398220380322011-05-11T22:49:03.098+01:002011-05-11T22:49:03.098+01:00I am still very patriotic - inspired by love for m...I am still very patriotic - inspired by love for my country England, Gibraltar.<br /><br /> England is rich in diversity <br /> The concept of diversity encompasses acceptance and respect. <br />It means understanding that each individual is unique, <br />and recognizing our individual differences. These can be along <br />the dimensions of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, socio-economic status, age, physical abilities, religious beliefs, <br />political beliefs, or other ideologies. It is the exploration <br />of these differences in a safe, positive, and nurturing environment. <br />It is about understanding each other and moving beyond <br />simple tolerance to embracing and celebrating the <br />rich dimensions of diversity contained within each individual.Margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13213575188604830952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-49103805957383768982011-05-11T22:27:33.350+01:002011-05-11T22:27:33.350+01:00My skin colour is white, but I was not born in Bri...My skin colour is white, but I was not born in Britten. I was born in a place called Gibraltar my parents are Spanish we emigrated to Britten in the 60s like a lot of black people did.<br /><br />I married a black man. I have experience racism from while, black, European people.<br /><br /> I have no criminal record. Only experience I have had from the police is when my son use to get into trouble with the police. <br /><br /> One police man even said to me when my son was around 13 years old , used to get into trouble with the law that mix race children are confused. Was taken back with him saying that. I was brought up very respectful, patriotic which is England - Gibraltar is British. (There no gun crime in Gibraltar).<br /><br />Ruled by RC church very family orientated, but have a divinity of culture and religion which lives in peace respect for each other culture. Don’t get me wrong they also have dugs issue within the community . <br /> <br /> <br /><br />My son had 2 English friends one from wealthy parent one from a working class family.<br /><br />The one from the wealthy family had 32 convictions I found that out after he was charged with a murder, but did not get stop in his wealthy car by police like my son would when he was driving his girlfriend car.<br /> Well my son mix race so police would wonder how he would afford a car like that. <br /><br />People on hear have made valued point in how black, mix race people are more likely to get stop .<br /><br />I look it up found this .<br /><br />http://www.charitytimes.com/ct/stop_and_search.php<br /> <br /><br /><br /><br />The Commission's Stop and Think report uses data from the Ministry of Justice, the Home Office, the Metropolitan Police and the Office for National Statistics, to analyse trends in stop and search use around the country. <br /><br />Across England and Wales there were 22 stops and searches per 1,000 people in 2007/08. Breaking this down for the different ethnic groups it reveals that the black population had the highest rate of stop and search at over 110 per 1,000; the rate for Asian people was over 30 per 1,000, and it was 17 per 1,000 for white people.<br /><br />If black people were stopped and searched at the same rate as white people in 2007/2008, there would have be around 25,000 stops and searches of black people. Instead, there were over 170,000.Margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13213575188604830952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-75918737789285101352011-05-11T19:51:33.733+01:002011-05-11T19:51:33.733+01:00I've lived in Shepherds Bush for several years...I've lived in Shepherds Bush for several years now and have always felt it to be a relatively safe and friendly place.<br /><br />I'm white male late 20s and come from a council estate background in a different city where there is little ethnic minority. Yet they have the same problems there so I don't think it has anything to do with race. But I do think it has a lot to do with social grade.<br /><br />I honestly think the government should bring back National Service and give young people a choice: attend higher education, take a skilled apprenticeship or serve in the military.<br /><br />That way the contingent of youth who don't want to learn or work and feel the need to 'flex their muscles' and display their territorial aggression can do it (and play with guns as much as they want). Along the way they'd probably learn some discipline and self-respect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-18907387919330992732011-05-11T19:13:26.569+01:002011-05-11T19:13:26.569+01:00To the above poster: I'm not sure of the point...To the above poster: I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make. Are you?<br /><br />So you're black. I get that, though I don't care. Couldn't give a rat's ass. <br /><br />You seem to care deeply that I'm white. You appear to believe my skin tone makes me complicit to an anti-black conspiracy. Fair enough then. Everyone's welcome to have an opinion, even the racists.<br /><br />What does any of this have to do with crime? What does it have to do with a man getting shot in the face?<br /><br />It's unfortunate that you feel black youths are being unfairly targeted by the police. That's probably down to profiling rather than stereotyping (see note below). Honestly, though, as a victim of crime I couldn't care what colour the perpetrator is. I just don't want to be the victim of crime, please.<br /><br />("a breakdown of the ethnicity of the 18,091 men and boys who police took action against for a range of violent and sexual offences in London in 2009-10 ... show that among those proceeded against for street crimes, 54 per cent were black; for robbery, 59 per cent; and for gun crimes, 67 per cent. Just over 12 per cent of London’s 7.5 million population is black, including those of mixed black and white parentage, while 69 per cent is white, according to the Office for National Statistics." Source -- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.htmlGraham Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-18744181416395141612011-05-11T18:42:15.630+01:002011-05-11T18:42:15.630+01:00unfortunately here the stereotypes start again. ha...unfortunately here the stereotypes start again. have you not read any of the positive posts above?! re read your posts : 17:04 - can you not see by saying stuff like 'you white people' etc is fueling peoples excuses to divide. im white and just as it annoys you that black people are stereotyped thats exactly what you are doing to me. Two wrongs dont make a right so i am happy to rise above your poor use of words. and i agree there have been bigotted statements from BOTH races. I understand you may be talking about a certain type of white person but by saying 'you white people' is putting me and every other white person in the same boat. surely all of us 'white people' arent all like this, i know i'm not!!! you're doing exactly what you say the police are doing etc to black people portraing them in the same light. Personally i see myself as an individual way before i am white and this is how i see others. <br /> if you want to rise above hatred you must stop hating on others and im talking to EVERYONE - its a vicious cycle which only ends in more hatred and division. Rise above it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-31691365927291622522011-05-11T16:36:29.560+01:002011-05-11T16:36:29.560+01:00All those black men aren't in prison for doing...All those black men aren't in prison for doing nothing, are they? Are you saying they're all completely innocent? Is the current spate of black-on-black gun and knife crime just made up then? Or perhaps your community needs to recognise it has a problem and start addressing it in a responsibly manner instead of blaming everyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131658095945044290.post-63798677966957294312011-05-11T16:00:09.775+01:002011-05-11T16:00:09.775+01:00see how the white people wanna side step the real ...see how the white people wanna side step the real issues typical slide of hand tactics, this website is very political and once again if we look at all the posts clearly we can see the dark side of bigotry that lives in this country not only in the institutions like the police but also the citizens. It's sad to say but if it was a little white girl or boy this would be a much bigger story as usual we can see buffers. the police with their brutal and racist tactics against our community must wise up and truly deliver justice to a marginalised section of the communitydyawnenoreply@blogger.com